tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post3992637450930740286..comments2023-09-21T08:37:40.737-06:00Comments on The Francis Family: Help and The Burnt Daisy updateUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-41121937177757990642009-03-13T13:32:00.000-06:002009-03-13T13:32:00.000-06:00Mindy thanks so much for putting up this post whic...Mindy thanks so much for putting up this post which generated so much discussion from so many other mothers, which are the true experts after all. I am now motivated to do the cry out thing with Cadrien starting Monday. I have been putting it off for 10 months. Seriously! Had I not read all of these encouraging comments from other moms and heard that there is light at the end of the tunnel I may have put it off for many more months until it was too late and she was too old. So thanks for posting this. Keep us updated with what you choose to do, and how it is going. I wish you all the best! I wished you still lived here in Okotoks because I would go over and help you out! Good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-82015780956308150242009-03-13T11:44:00.000-06:002009-03-13T11:44:00.000-06:00Hey, I am sorry, I know you said crying it out did...Hey, I am sorry, I know you said crying it out didnt work for you, but I just want to tell you what happeend with both my kids. Scoty wasnt a great nurser around 9 months, so he got a bottle at bed time, in bed, and he went to sleep great with it, even though I know he shouldnt have been going to be with it, but I finally just HAD to let him cry it out, NOTHING worked, seriously, i couldnt rock him if I was in the room with him, it made it worse, nothing nothing NOTHING worked, I was so fed up with it....so I finally did it, I promise, he cried for like and hour an a half, and it only took a few days, and everyday he cried less and less and then he was on a routine. They also say to have a bed time routine, which alerts the kids that they are getting ready for bed, and they know it and start winding down, but I think most people do that and it still is hard. <BR/><BR/>With Rylee I nursed her to sleep, she would get up in the night and nurse, until just before Christmas, I was SO SO SO sick of it, and so finally one night I decided it was time. We were in the middle of painting the kids rooms, so we had Scoty's bed moved out into another room, and Rylee's crib had been just left in there in the middle of the room, cause she had been sleeping in our pack n' play in our room anyway, cause I was so lazy and didnt want to walk the extra 10 steps to get her in the middle of the room. SO, I realized this was my one chance to get her to sleep through the night, if she woke up and had to cry, then it was ok, cause Scoty wasnt in the room, and wouldnt wake up, so I did it....I nursed her, put her in her bed, awake, and then let her cry...and cry and cry...of course I didnt sleep...it took FOREVER! Then she went to sleep, then at about 2 or 3, she woke up to nurse...and I Didnt give in, she SCREAMED for 2 hours, and then went to sleep, the next night, slept completely through the night...and has been ever since....they KNOW that you will come and you will feel bad...my kids did, and I had to be strong. I figure I am a better mom because of it, because if I get a good nights rest, then I will not be as cranky and onery the next day...I know that it is horrible, I feel like a nazi, but it is what I have to do for my kids, cause they will not let me do anything else.<BR/><BR/>I also read somewhere that they have to learn to soothe themselves to sleep...so if you force them to do it when they go to bed, make them learn to fall asleep by themselves, then when they wake up in the night they are used to falling back to sleep on their own, and usually will.<BR/><BR/>My kids share a room, they arent twins, but they go to bed at the same time and will keep each other up or comfort each other. Rylee always cries when I put her to bed, but Scoty is now so used to her crying, that I think he just tunes her out and falls to sleep, then she does too...<BR/><BR/>I dont know if this is any help, I definitely wrote a book, I am sorry, but I just thought I would tell you what works for you...please let us know what worked! k? good luck! <BR/><BR/>I am gonna go check out your business blog...I am excited!the fellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00075768853524109066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-4750273575667904942009-03-13T07:17:00.000-06:002009-03-13T07:17:00.000-06:00I can't say anymore then anyone else everyone has ...I can't say anymore then anyone else everyone has pretty much said it all. I would just let them cry it out, it only takes a few days...Unless you are Jared Henline..hehehe. But again its all in what you mind, if you dont mind it then its not a big deal they wont nurse themsleves to sleep forever right?? But I will say this. One of my friends always layed with her oldest daughter to put her to sleep and she was 8 when she finally stopped doing it. ANd it took 3 years for this girl to learn how to put herself to sleep, 11 years old before this girl would fall asleep before midnight without a fight and crying from her room. I know thats a odd case but it happens. If they don't learn how to put themselves to sleep they will always have troubles falling asleep at night no matter the age.<BR/><BR/> They say that letting them cry is good for them, its hard to do but it works. My longest baby was 45 min, and it was that 11:00pm feeding I had to break. It took 3 days and he didn't wake up anymore. I scrapbooked while he cried to try and divert my attention but I ended up sitting outside his room. I found the 5 min 10 min thing was harder because they would see you and then scream harder when you left and that would break my heart,I felt like I was teasing them, but lots of my friends have tried it and it works. Anyway, whatever you do just do what makes you feel ok and don't worry about what anyone may say do whats best for you..If you are ok with laying with them till they are 5 then lay with them. IF you want to break the habit then I think letting them cry it out is the only way to do it..Many children have survived the crying...and they still love you in the morning. Good luck!!!Janas Bananashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00869922049619114370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-51132594744685443402009-03-13T00:04:00.000-06:002009-03-13T00:04:00.000-06:00Hey.My son nursed to sleep until he was 14 months....Hey.<BR/>My son nursed to sleep until he was 14 months. I thought the same thing you did, but at the end of the day I was glad that they come to "me" for confort. Me son is almost 3.5 and I lay with him every night. I know someone say it's bad, but it is my favorite part of my day. Maybe you should look at it in a different way?<BR/>Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-22000058413292968452009-03-12T22:18:00.000-06:002009-03-12T22:18:00.000-06:00Oh my gosh Mindy, I am going through the same thin...Oh my gosh Mindy, I am going through the same thing. From the day she was born, I have breastfed Cadrien to sleep. The only problem is that now she wakes up every hour at night and I have to breastfeed her back to sleep. I'm serious! It is soooooo bad! I'm so sleep deprived. She used to only wake up every 2 hours but now it is getting worse and is every hour. I did the same thing with Camden. Here is what Camden's pediatrician told me. He said that we go through sleep and awake cycles at night where we ALL wake up every hour (most of the time we don't even notice it or remember it) and we all put ourselves right back to sleep because we know how. BUT, given that I taught Camden (and now Cadrien) to fall back alseep by breastfeeding, it is the only way he (and she) know how to go back to sleep. So he told me that I needed to teach him to fall asleep on his own and stay asleep by using Dr. Ferber's method. It consists of putting your baby in bed at night and letting your baby cry it out in their crib on their own, and checking them 5 minutes later, then 10 minutes later, then 20 minutes later, but never let them cry more than one hour. After about a week your baby should sleep through the night and not wake up. When Camden was 6 months old he told me this and I refused to do it. Then, he told me the same when Camden was 7 months old, and then finally at 8 months old when I couldn't stand waking up every hour anymore I did it and Camden slept through the night that first night. Well do you think I did it with Cadrien yet! No not really. I did only twice. Then I gave up. I know, pathetic, especially since I saw the amazing results with Camden. I actually opted to do the Sleep Lady version, which is the sitting next to the crib as they cry, but that did not work as well because she saw me there and it made her even more mad so she wouldn't stop crying. She is now teething so I had to stop, but I will try it again once she is done teething. I will go back to Dr. Ferber's method because when you aren't there and they can't see you then they give up much sooner. So try that! He has written a book, and there is tons on google about it. OKay, wow, crap, that was a long comment. But, I feel your pain...still do! Going on 10 months of not once sleeping more than 2 hours consecutively. It's a killer. I hope Dr. Ferber works for you!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-45840963320560769252009-03-12T15:32:00.000-06:002009-03-12T15:32:00.000-06:00oh boy, you need to talk to caroline,she's going t...oh boy, you need to talk to caroline,she's going through the EXACT same thing right now, but with 1 kid not 2! I'll tell her you guys need to collaborate together. I'll be honest I never did any cry it out or anything method. I cannot stand crying...I lie down in Taylor's bed and she gets up once at night for milk. I give her some then she falls back to sleep. I guess that makes me a spoil my kid mom. It will probably change when the 2nd child comes (that's why i dont want another ) haha. Good luck Mindy and yes Dustin is a good hubby. Bruce helps a lot too. I'm glad he does. I have babywise and the no cry sleep solution if you need it. let me knowChristine Petersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17966284700623120669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-45008899948930239142009-03-12T15:05:00.000-06:002009-03-12T15:05:00.000-06:00wow! I seriously feel so much better now because I...wow! I seriously feel so much better now because I am a mean mom too! I let Jensen cry it out. I couldn't do it at first and I would either nurse him to sleep (like you) or rock him to sleep. I finally just let him cry it out and it only took a couple of days and he figured it out. If he does wake up again I've just started to go in and tickle his face and sing him a song, then tell him I love him, goodnight, I'll see him in the morning and I walk out of the room. It seems to work! I've also discovered that he needs his blanket to go to sleep on his own. I know that you're not supposed to put things in their crib, but without his blanket he won't go to sleep on his own. So weird and such a young age, eh?<BR/>So good luck with whatever you decide to do!Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08250969077789800216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-59139328330559962792009-03-12T14:53:00.000-06:002009-03-12T14:53:00.000-06:00Looks like I'm not the only mean mom! I let my kid...Looks like I'm not the only mean mom! I let my kids cry. Granted I don't have twins and I don't know about dealing with them. With my kids I let them cry and when they got to the point of totally freaking out, I would go in, lay them back down, tuck them in, and let them cry again. Its hard, but SOOO worth it!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-54536203344027496382009-03-12T14:13:00.000-06:002009-03-12T14:13:00.000-06:00I agree with Kelsey, but with twins that would be ...I agree with Kelsey, but with twins that would be hard...listening to one baby cry themselves to sleep is hard enough! Just remember you need sleep too and they need to learn to put themselves to sleep & self-soothe. Good luck!!DeAnnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115395252929173036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-27411500645246765622009-03-12T14:08:00.000-06:002009-03-12T14:08:00.000-06:00Yeah, I'm mean too. I just let my kids cry. I know...Yeah, I'm mean too. I just let my kids cry. I know how hard it is too. Jared was awful, he would never sleep and so after trying everything I had to just let him cry and the first night he cried for 3 hours!!!! I would go check on him a few times but he cried for 3 hours the first week, 2 the second week and then by the end of the 3rd week he didnt cry anymore but he slept through the night from day one trying that. Mady only cried for like 3 days. Jared is just really stubborn and it was soooooo hard!!! I don't know what it's like at all with twins but that is that only thing that worked for me. Good Luck!!henline crewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09303212559979110733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-32493572811146692992009-03-12T13:31:00.000-06:002009-03-12T13:31:00.000-06:00Sorry, I guess I am no help. I was just one of th...Sorry, I guess I am no help. I was just one of those mean moms. I just let them cry (up to an hour or more for one of my stubborn kids) but all it took was one or two nights of that and that was it. The habit was broken. I guess that's why it was easier for me as they came along to do that, cause I knew the torture would be done and over in only two days. : S<BR/><BR/>And you certainly do have an AWESOME husband! My did the same thing for me. It IS a rare thing and so I am glad you are so appreciative of him and say such nice things about him for doing that. I don't remember if I ever thanked my husband for what he did. I maybe should do that now. Better late than never. I think I only have realized in the last few years how lucky I was. I just thought every guy did that. (or should) lol.<BR/><BR/>P.S.I can hardly wait to check out your business site again. I know you will go far! It sounds awesome!Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17650386366226859611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-37153567166982508592009-03-12T13:30:00.001-06:002009-03-12T13:30:00.001-06:00that was weird. . . and while i was posting my com...that was weird. . . and while i was posting my comment, your blog header changed! lol.kelseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11236559970790471035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-66261363102585482912009-03-12T13:30:00.000-06:002009-03-12T13:30:00.000-06:00Blogger Kels said... i obviously have no clue,...Blogger Kels said...<BR/><BR/> i obviously have no clue, because i don't have twins. . . but, i actually didn't do the "stay in the room" thing, i chose to just "leave and check" because it was too hard for me to stay in there, and norah hated me being there and not helping her.<BR/> so i actually just let her cry, and it was hard. she cried for 40 minutes the first night, but then was out all night. it only took a few nights for her to realize she had to put herself to sleep, and now she has learned. and. . . NO SOOTHER!!! YAY!!! that was the best part. just like that book said, they need to figure it out themselves, and they're crying because they want to be asleep, but don't know how to get there.<BR/><BR/> who knows the answer, right?!? being a mom is hard sometimes! lol.<BR/> hope you find the answer, and let the rest of us know what you figure out! i'm excited to hear/see all about this little business. you are way too hard core for me--- having 3 babies, keeping a house, and starting up a business. no wonder you're tired!kelseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11236559970790471035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-79104930264259165662009-03-12T13:29:00.000-06:002009-03-12T13:29:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.kelseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11236559970790471035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-72671220029016023522009-03-12T13:16:00.000-06:002009-03-12T13:16:00.000-06:00Twins are so fun, eh? About a month ago I was able...Twins are so fun, eh? About a month ago I was able to get my boys to fall asleep by themselves. It's awesome! They still wakeup at night though. I think mostly because they still need a soother to sleep. I might have to get rid of them or something. Anyway, I used "The Baby Whisperer" as a guide. I bought the book when I had Hadley, and love it's technique. It's a bit in between crying out and rocking to sleep. Let me know if you want more info. It's so much more tricky with twins. Good luck.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073402398615682990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31660255.post-60161081944927037772009-03-12T11:49:00.000-06:002009-03-12T11:49:00.000-06:00Hey you. I found this back and forth between a few...Hey you. I found this back and forth between a few different people with multiples...a few different ideas.<BR/>http://www.mamasource.com/article/5-mo-twins-not-sleeping#response_0<BR/>They talk about a book called Babywise...don't know if it's the same one as Kels told you about. Good luck with everything!kyleandtarynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00145911959967599748noreply@blogger.com